[bellzy]

We all seen how the portrayed Cruz and Faith on the show. Always down eachothers throats here and there. so.. What did you think about everything that went on between them, and how the chacaters realationship was? How do you think they portrayed them. Good or Bad?

[PurplepenguinJenWalsh55]

Hmm Faith and Cruz: where to begin
1) They were obvious enemies and interestingly enough it revolved around Bosco. it exploded with the shooting of Faith literally. But then when he was also shot and injured badly there was sort of a peace between them when faith killed Donald Mann.

2) Cruz even went to prison for her and got beat up. I don't know what shifted but something did. I like to think had things continued they maybe would have worked together somehow.

[jayne_190]

I think in light of what Cruz did for Faith, Faith had a little more respect for Cruz than she had during season five. After watching a scene at the beginning of "Kingpin Rising", I think Faith realized that she would have to work with Cruz with more respect than she had earlier.

Personally, I think Faith never really liked Cruz's tatics or Cruz herself. The fact that they still disliked each, but at least remained civil towards each other can be seen in the series finale right before Bosco leaves and Cruz goes after him.

[Maquis Leader]

I noticed their peace lasted only until Bosco was back to work. Cruz' comment to Faith about her not being his friend anymore was a cheap shot that was right out of the old days.

They were like two kids fighting over the same toy, in a weird sort of way. I think Cruz only wanted Bosco because she thought he belonged to Faith. She told him that she'd thought Faith was his girlfriend in the epi where Faith asked for a new partner.

In Nobel's room, it came down to fighting over Bosco more than not wanting the gun turned in I think. Cruz strikes me as the type of woman to want what someone else has.

[SperryIlClown]

I think that Faith never likes Cruz because she is not sentimentalist like her.She does her work thinking only her work.Faith thinks work but more with sentimentalism,in my opinion like a mother.

The only positive thing about their relation is the respect to each other in the 6 season.

[Sgt. Cruz]

Well, their relation was really interesting. Faith never liked Cruz, she even hated her. Cruz didn't give a damn about her, she was just doing her job and it was pissing Yokas off. Of course Yokas didn't like Bosco with Cruz either and it was stupid, cause why she broke in their relationship ?? Her attitude destroyed her friendship with Bosco for good. But anyway, I like how Cruz sacrificed for Faith in season 6 no metter what had happened earlier. She was simply the best!

[SperryIlClown]

Of course!!
She showed the difference between her and Faith.

[artboy]

Another difference between Cruz and Faith.....about twenty pounds!



Yeah, I know....I just don't give a darn!

[Sgt. Cruz]

Hahaha, Goood, you rock, artboy!

Claudia, I think there was much more differents between Yokas and Cruz. Cruz was so damn good cop, Yokas... well, sometimes was, sometimes wasn't. Cruz gave job everything she had and I love her sacrifice. She's real hero. And Cruz was rude, that's a fact, but she respected Swersky for example. Yokas was cheeky to Cruz, although she was her boss, right? Cruz was sergeant and Yokas was officer. I just don't like they way Faith treated Cruz, it's so unhuman, for me. You know, you don't have to love everybody, but Cruz didn't do anything to Yokas, Yokas shot first in the hotel, so, it shows what human she was.

[SperryIlClown]

yes...and I'm agree...

[finta646]

Im in agreement as well, I just thought Cruz didnt really pay any attention to Yokas, but Yokas didnt like Cruz....but It was Yokas who shot first, thats fact.

[Elwyn]

I remember one scene from season 4, "10-13" probably when Yokas was really jealous because of Cruz and she had little chat with Bosco:

Bosco: (about Cruz) She just lost her sister!
Yokas: So what?
Bosco: SO WHAT?!

It was something like that I hope I didn't mess up a quote too much.

It shows that Faith didn't like Cruz from the very beginning - no reason in general, but deep inside there was a reason - like I mentioned - jealousy...

and coming back to hotel room shootout it was Faith who shot first, it was Faith who shot in HEAD in order to kill not to stop Cruz from doin' something. If she wanted to stop her she could shoot her in leg, arm but for God's sake not in the head!

In season 6 they became civil, and that was cool.

The main diffrence between them was the attitiude which lead to the diffrent response from the viewers. Faith was nice and all, Cruz was tough, agressive and asertive which made her "bi***h" in people opinion

But the "thing" is that Faith had much heavier sins than Maritza.
- she had abortion not because of rape or health reasons (danger to mother or child)
- she left for death Ceasar in season 1
- she killed Mann in cold blood (whatever we like her or not because of it - she did it and it's a fact - it was murder
- she has intentions to kill Cruz in s4 finale

Cruz:
- screwing protocol
- "the attitiude"
- a bit dirty but not corrupted with involvement of suspects - like selling out cops or cooperating with them and not a rat

My intention is not to bash Faith - she is one of my favs too and I really really like her and the whole interactions between her and Cruz
> but to show the diffrences between Cruz and Faith

So jumping into conclusions:
Yes, Cruz did more mistakes but they were not bad as Faith's
and the "being nice" stuff makes most of people to discredit Cruz and see Faith as the always good one which is not true. Yokas was even more dirty than Cruz in the end IMO.

[Sgt. Cruz]

Damn right!

[finta646]

A*G*R*E*E*M*E*N*T

Elwyn, you brought up some of the best examples, I completely agree.

[kanste]

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But the "thing" is that Faith had much heavier sins than Maritza.
- she had abortion not because of rape or health reasons (danger to mother or child)
- she left for death Ceasar in season 1
- she killed Mann in cold blood (whatever we like her or not because of it - she did it and it's a fact - it was murder
- she has intentions to kill Cruz in s4 finale

Cruz:
- screwing protocol
- "the attitiude"
- a bit dirty but not corrupted with involvement of suspects - like selling out cops or cooperating with them and not a rat

I'm a Bosco and Faith fan -not a big Cruz fan. but in general I agree with you. I just don't see the abortion thing as a "sin" because I total can see the reason why she did it.

I would like to add one thing to "Cruz's list". She planted evidence to convict someone of murder who was innocent (okay he was a drug dealer). But I'm not 100 % sure if I remember correctly.